Recently there have been various discussions about what is the place of the founder's stance on the doctrine of the church in relation to the role of the Holy Spirit in the church.

Reacting to the matter, a youth group, TIC Celestial Youth wrote:

"Celestial church is a church of the Spirit and there is no where PAPA told you since his death the Spirit can't from time to time instruct you on anything to do either new or existing.

"Papa didn't tell anybody he was and is the finality of this church. The fact that Papa is dead doesn't mean the leading of the Spirit seizes.

"A true christain church will from time to time be led by the Spirit irrespective of the founder's existence or not. "AS MANY THAT ARE LED BY THE SPIRIT, THESE ARE THE CHILDREN OF GOD". ROM 8:14.

"The Spirit is not dump and doesn't stop His leadings since the death of Papa.The fact that Papa didn't do a thing doesn't mean the Spirit cannot instruct someone else to do it. The Spirit is the director of a church from time to time.. CCC we need to grow on this."